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• They don’t seem to understand how Zoom works (Score:3)

  by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) writes: on Wednesday April 08, 2020 @05:38PM (#59923002)

  Employees who have been using Zoom to stay in touch with family and friends can continue to do so through a web browser or via mobile

  Well that’s great… except that’s how everyone already uses Zoom, do they not understand that using Zoom on the web means it downloads and installs a native complement that is then used for the actual videoconferencing?

  Saying they are banning Zoom, but saying you can “continue using it on the web” seems to make no sense.

  They certainly cannot ban it altogether as it’s how a lot of people stay in contact with lots of other people…. Zoom has too much of a network effect going now to realistically ban.

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  • Re: (Score:3)

    by markus ( 2264 ) writes:

    Zoom has all sorts of different ways to access it. On my Chromebook, I can use the Chrome app (crashes after a few minutes, though), the Android app (works fine, but is extraordinarily difficult to start, because of some stupidity by Zoom), and the HTML5 web site (slightly easier to start, works fine, but has limited features).

    From what Google has said, the first two options are no longer allowed. That’t no big loss. They were buggy anyway. The third option still works and is allowed to be used.

    On Mac and W
  • Re: (Score:2)

    by spire3661 ( 1038968 ) writes:

    You dont keep personal contacts on your work machine. I mean wtf…
• Why aren’t they all using Hangouts? (Score:2)

  by mykepredko ( 40154 ) writes:

  I would have thought that a block on using Zoom (and Skype and…) would be already in place with instead Google employees using their own product Hangouts. I know that Hangouts is blocked in some countries, but I would have thought that Zoom was blocked in those countries as well. Last I heard Hangouts was on the way out, but I just checked and it’s still there.

  • Re: (Score:2)

    by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) writes:

    instead Google employees using their own product Hangouts.

    Even Google is not that cruel.

    I had to use hangouts for a bit, it was hands-down the absolute lowest quality conferencing software I’ve ever used.

    Mainly in terms of video/audio quality.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by markus ( 2264 ) writes:

      It’s also in the process of being shut down. Google has a long-standing tradition of building messaging products, stopping work once the product is 80% complete and then discontinuing before a replacement is fully developed. Rinse and repeat. They’ve been doing this for more than a decade.
• They seem to be working to repair their reputation (Score:2)

  by bird ( 12361 ) writes:

  Today, Alex Stamos (ex of facebook, currently of Stanford University) announced that he is consulting with them on their issues:

  https://medium.com/@alexstamos/working-on-security-and-safety-with-zoom-2f61f197cb34

  Obviously, claiming to have end-to-end encryption when you don’t is more in the nature of a lie than a stumble, but they have a lot going for them in the ease-of-use and breadth of adoption, so maybe they can turn it around.

  • Re: (Score:2)

    by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) writes:

    Obviously, claiming to have end-to-end encryption when you don’t is more in the nature of a lie than a stumble, but they have a lot going for them in the ease-of-use and breadth of adoption, so maybe they can turn it around.

    The fact that IE6 was dominant for so long attests to that. Plus the fact that, unfortunately, most people couldn’t care less about security.

    Zoom says it’s devoting the next 90 days to security and bugfixes. Let’s see how things look after that – it’s not as if any of the alternatives don’t have their own concerns (which aren’t always security-related, per se).

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Lordpidey ( 942444 ) writes:

      Zoom says it’s devoting the next 90 days to security and bugfixes.

      No, fuck that. They outright LIED about a fundamental part of their security model.

      Bugs happen, I can forgive a few missteps. Hell, heartbleed was a thing, but it wasn’t intentional.

      This is a company that intentionally created an insecure product and advertized it as secure.
  • Re: (Score:2)

    by jrumney ( 197329 ) writes:

    Claiming you have end-to-end encryption when you don’t to build up a paying customer base is FRAUD.
• Prudent. (Score:2)

  by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) writes:

  Zoom has two problems: their code is shit and the CCP loves stealing corporate secrets. This is why installing any applications for using Zoom is out. However, the web client is sandboxed so it’s as secure as any other webpage.
• They should have invested in hangouts. (Score:2)

  by CormacJ ( 64984 ) writes:

  …maybe if Google had actually put some effort into hangouts years ago rather than deciding to kill it because they couldn’t make a ton of money off it, and deciding to begin to move it to the graveyard.

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