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China Says Peak of Coronavirus Epidemic Has Passed (newsweek.com) 28
Could you PLEASE POST SOMETHING MEANINGFUL about coronavirus? We have yet to see any *real news* about it on slashdot.
And for the contrary opinion, I hear about little else OTHER than coronavirus on the other news sites. I’m happy to come here to see some news that ISN’T about Covid-19.
- by dfn5 ( 524972 )At least read the summary if not the article. They are talking about China. Look at the graphs. The rate of new cases has already passed the inflection point… FOR CHINA. The US is about 2 months behind China and is still in exponential growth. Will we be where China is in 2 months? Who knows. I doubt it.
- by lgw ( 121541 )
As a general rule of thumb, don’t believe a single statistic that the Chinese government has touched in any way. This is not in any way specific to Corona-chan. It’s all propaganda. Some numbers may actually be correct, when the correct numbers serve the interests of the Chinese government, but truth is not a goal. As it has become obvious that the Chinese government has sway over the WHO, it’s best to take any Corona-related numbers from China with a grain of salt.
- You are free to look at the wuflu numbers from South Korea, Italy, Taiwan, Thailand, the USA, other nations in the EU AC.
The numbers of people needing ICU care in Italy and for how long AC. Chine is over. The number of new cases per day is less than 20. South Korea had this under contol by 1000 cases and it’s approaching a mall growth rate now. Iran is ust starting to shift to lower growth rates.
All other countries are still exponential.
But it’s only over for china if they ban travel from the US.
- by EzInKy ( 115248 )
I trust the Chinese government only slightly more than I trust Trump. Why doesn’t he just suspend the tariffs already? He doesn’t need Congressional approval to do that, and it would be as good as any other tax cut he could propose.
- by hnjjz ( 696917 )
Trump lifted tariffs on face masks and medical equipment on March 6.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/u… [wsj.com]
That would imply that the virus was much, much more widespread than anyone is telling us.
Which also would imply the death rate is vastly lower than they were telling us.
So I’m not sure that’s accurate, since some places (like Italy) have pretty good testing but are also seeing rather high death rate.
- by Kjella ( 173770 )
Which also would imply the death rate is vastly lower than they were telling us. So I’m not sure that’s accurate, since some places (like Italy) have pretty good testing but are also seeing rather high death rate.
Even if you discard China as a credible source entirely there’s a lot of weird data. South Korea is also reporting an extremely much lower death toll than Italy. A lot of the countries I would expect to be in trouble due to poor health care systems are not. Maybe it’s genetic, maybe it’s the climate, maybe it’s different strains but overall the data doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
- it’s the next one. That has the whole idea of outsourcing to China getting business types very nervous.
- And my Chinese running shoes are legitimately made by Nike…
- by quenda ( 644621 ) on Thursday March 12, 2020 @05:17PM (#59823732)
We are hearing from world leaders and health authorities that much of the world’s will get this new virus over the next couple of years, as happened with the 2009 flu pandemic.
But officially only 1% of Wuhan has been infected, and a far smaller proportion of the rest of China. And this is a peak?
So what is going on?Will China continue to control the spread, or is that control dependent on unsustainable restrictions in movement? Will leaders have to chose between economic collapse and exponential spread? Is the plan to maintain social isolation until a vaccine is developed?
Can Italy follow China’s success, or will we see million of infections in Italy (with the rest of Europe soon to follow) while China remains in the 100s of thousands?Are we set for a years of social isolation, with a constantly overwhelmed healthcare system?
I’m having a lot of trouble resolving all the apparently conflicting claims. The projected numbers of ICU patients are terrifying. And yet……. (Score:4, Insightful)
by JustAnotherOldGuy ( 4145623 ) on Thursday March 12, 2020 @05:19PM (#59823752)And yet there are multiple news outlets, including some from within China, that claim there is no “flattening out” and that the epidemic hasn’t passed by any means.
Hmmm, who to believe? Surely the Chinese government would never lie to anyone, would they?
Surely the Chinese government would never lie to anyone, would they?
Not unless you want to get hacked.
- by burtosis ( 1124179 ) on Thursday March 12, 2020 @05:27PM (#59823788)What they are not saying is several large areas of China have been on lockdown with residents confined to their homes for going on 7 weeks and the reason the spread has stopped is that the massive quarantine, testing, tracing and then testing again and social distancing works. Also, it’s appearing more and more likely that wearing a mask when you are well or sick can substantially cut down on cases, likely because with this you are contagious before symptoms. In fact, even just testing everyone and having them self isolate seems to be effective. For this to be effective in America, Given how we have let it spread, we need on the order of hundreds of thousands of tests per day, possibly even more than a million. They need to be totally free at the point of service otherwise the hundred million underinsured and uninsured will be a vector to everyone else. We need to be doing so many things, Italy has some of the best medical care in the developed world and they are falling apart with overload leaving the less able to be saved to fend for themselves without care and this is pushing the case fatality rate past 7%. Unfortunately that looks like what will happen in the US in a matter of weeks.
- The death rate is currently almost 7% “among the obvious cases” – right now it’s 4969 deaths against 68900 recoveries (73869 resolved cases).
China:
all your virus are belong to us
- China is not interested in your health if you are not one of theirs, and is only marginally interested in the health of its own citizens in that dead people don’t produce. Everything they say publicly is suspect. Period. China lied about the existence of the virus, and imprisoned doctors that dared to speak out about it. China lied about the number of infections, and the number of dead. I see no reason to believe them now, about much of anything. The U.S. govt. is only marginally better in this regard.
As things get back to normal for the Chinese presumably they have a number of people, among them health care workers who are immune to corona and workers facing a global demand chock. I’d be great if we had some international solidarity going because neither corona nor the economy is going to get fixed soon.
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