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Cases of Vaping-Related Lung Illness Surge, Health Officials Say (nytimes.com) 45
black and grey market issues… (Score:4, Insightful)
by oneiron ( 716313 ) on Friday September 06, 2019 @09:48PM (#59167746)Vaping random mixtures of whatever some hack drug peddler decides to mix into their product is a really bad idea. We’ve seen enough safe vaping over a long enough period of time to know that the premise is sound, though.apparently air is full of viruses and over half a million people die each year from airborne illnesses, 300,000 from flu, 200,000 from whooping cough, 80,000 from measles, etc.
best not breath that shit, suck an e-cigarette 24×7 because we only have a few hundred cases of illnesses after 15 years.
Tax vaping! For the children! (Score:2, Troll)
This is all about the taxes. Banning online sales is next, bet me.
This is all about the taxes. Banning online sales is next, bet me.
Plausibly. Tobacco-generated sin taxes have dropped off slightly [statista.com] in recent years, although they’re still a fairly significant revenue stream.
One usual suspect appears to be without motive. Big tobacco is either already vested [opensecrets.org] in vaping, or spending heavily [theverge.com] to get there.
- by LarryRiedel ( 141315 ) <Larry@Riedel.org> on Friday September 06, 2019 @09:47PM (#59167740)4 deaths “linked to” vaping, up from 2. Time to declare a National Emergency?
- Way more people died from tainted romaine lettuce last year as I recall.
To be fair, they did recall that lettuce, too.
To be fair, they did recall that lettuce, too.
Laugh my fucking ass off.
Thank you
but later those same companies (GASP) sold more lettuce!!!…. being a bit more careful about contamination so they wouldn’t lose more money
- I was expecting a lot more.
With smoking you pretty much have wait half your life for the bad news. Here we have sudden spike of injuries showing up in a new product and also in a segment of the population that normally can ingest anything and recover.
The sudden onset of this is remarkable. It suggests something specific might be happening. A specific recently introduced ingedient? and basic ingredient that was contaminated at the factory?
Or mor worrying were just now noticing a pattern that was overlooked before.
Oe even more worr
This must be a serious crisis! 37’000 traffic deaths per year are _nothing_ in comparison.
>”So 5 deaths”
Of which at least one we know is THC and street-bought. What about the others? This type of “reporting” is incredibly irresponsible.
Indeed. THC is pretty benign, but if you overdo it, it is still a serious issue. Just like anything (including sugar, salt, fat, etc.) if you overdo it. I would say that 5 deaths so far probably indicate this stuff is unexpectedly safe and for sure much safer than smoking. And since people want their drugs (and there is really nothing wrong with that, unless you believe there should be no fun in life except prayer) making them safer is hugely desirable.
It’s probably not the THC itself but whatever God awful solvent the amateur pharmacists used to extract it into the liquid.
My money is on this. Huffing oil vapor will suffocate you.
- If I recall correctly there’s one method which involves some pressure equipment or something but the solvent is butane. So now you have THC gel or whatever the hell it’s called and you have to get the solvent out. This is all about taxes and tobacco companies who don’t like the fact that now some amateur chemist can go mix up his own nicotine.
Next up? Tax the crap out of it, ban online sales, require “real ID,” maybe “comprehensive background checks,” and whatever else. Maybe you have to have your nicotin
It’s probably not the THC itself but whatever God awful solvent the amateur pharmacists used to extract it into the liquid.
My uncle had a weed pen the other day, said it taste like it had Anbesol . Then he offered me some, I said “nah , i’m good”
You would think a man with his qualifications would know the meaning of the word “epidemic”.
14 people died yesterday because they tripped over their own foot.
If this shit is real I want facts , not o0oo0o0oo0 vaping is bad cause you’re gonna die , see look at these 4 people
Seatbelts and airbags don’t make vehicles perfectly safe, either.
As long as vaping still kills less people than plain old cigarettes, it’s an improvement in harm reduction. Yeah, vaping is probably not as safe as breathing only air, and traveling in a sheet metal box on wheels at 75MPH is never going to be as safe as walking, either.
15 years of e-cigarettes, yet now only this year a handful of cases pop up, contrasted with the half a million deaths from burning tobacco… in the USA alone!
What is the malfunction behind the politicians and news media and those barking like dogs in the social media kennel to think there is really any problem?
“What is the malfunction behind the politicians and news media and those barking like dogs in the social media kennel to think there is really any problem?”
Taxes! The politicians have bankrolled much of their state and federal budgets from revenues generated from cigarette taxes. The recent manufactured hysteria is the setup to levy taxes on vaping to make up the shortfall they’re seeing from people switching. That’ll be the “compromise” for keeping vaping legal.
They’ve been looking at ways to demonize vaping for a while now. I’m not sure if it’s Big Tobacco or just asshole politicians looking to score some free points, but either way this is a ridiculous knee-jerk reaction to what is obviously a bad batch of e-juice or something similar. There are what, 15 million people vaping now and a few hundred got sick. Then, 4 died – oh noes!
The latest theory is that it’s vitamin E based compounds that may be breaking down under heat into toxic components. It’s no doubtThey’ve been looking at ways to demonize vaping for a while now. I’m not sure if it’s Big Tobacco or just asshole politicians looking to score some free points, but either way this is a ridiculous knee-jerk reaction to what is obviously a bad batch of e-juice or something similar. There are what, 15 million people vaping now and a few hundred got sick. Then, 4 died – oh noes! The latest theory is that it’s vitamin E based compounds that may be breaking down under heat into toxic components. It’s no doubt something like that, some fucking lead-based e-juice from China or something like that.
So, we all gotta stop ALL vaping immediately, and if anyone doesn’t, the death penalty isn’t strong enough! And, they can throw in a “Think of the Children!” angle too, as a bonus – you know, those irresistible “candy” flavors that children are attracted to like zombies to brains. There’s just no possibility that adults might actually like something other than Boot or Ass flavored e-cigs.
Then these assholes weakly try to tie THC into it too. Hey, they can kill 4 birds with one stone.
Problem is the distribution of the addictive ingredient nicotine contained in vaping products is controlled by the tobacco/drug companies. So I call bullshit on the posts that claim that it is in the interest of the tobacco industry to destroy the vaping industry, which by and large is being controlled by them in the first place. If we read the facts as they emerge it is the use of oil based products in vaping products that is suspected in the fatal pneumonia cases showing up in otherwise perfectly healthy
er, there are “organic compounds” in all vaping products including reputable ones. All carbon based compounds are organic. No such thing as a vaping product without an organic compound in it
Disingenuous anti-vaping reporting (Score:4, Informative)
There have been a large number sensationalist articles about the numbers of people who fell I’ll because of vaping, and yet in almost all cases illegal or unauthorized additives were involved. THC additives and other designer drugs have always been scary shit even when smoked with marijuana, and now people are mixing them into their e-cigarettes. For some reason the additives involved are mentioned only down in 20th paragraph and never in the title.
wow.
“state officials said his acute lung injury was linked to vaping illicit T.H.C. products”
Canada is about to legalize concentrates and oils such as those in vape pens. So hopefully they have some good evidence to share, and we can figure out how to make them safely. It is a bit of a wild west mentality out there, with poor quality control at the moment.
Benefits of thc vape pens is that they generally have no smell, the number one complaint about smokers. They also do not light on fire and cause forest fires,
Benefits of thc vape pens is that they generally have no smell,
They do, it’s just faint.
I’m not saying that just to be trollish. I made similar mistakes, trying to take long drags through the very narrow tubing of a vape cartridge.
You *must* allow some air to come in at the same time, to keep the vacuum pressure low on your lungs. Trying too hard to inhale pulls fluid into the lungs, from which all sorts of other consequences can follow. If the cartridge is so clogged you can’t really draw through it, try puffing it with your cheeks like a cigar, and then inhale the puffs. Your mouth is equipp
After 2/3rds of TFA going on about the teen vaping “epidemic” and talking about 3 of the patients (none of them teens), they FINALLY get around to saying this is a new thing, not just vaping in general causing a problem never seen before.
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